Steven Rothberg, Founder and Chief Visionary Officer of College Recruiter and Jeff Dickey-Chasins also called the Job Board Doctor have unveiled their brand new podcast, JobBoardGeek. The podcast showcases the enterprise of connecting candidates and employers. In this introductory episode, the 2 start by discussing their distinctive backgrounds in job boards and recruiting.
Tune in to listen to about Steven and Jeff’s various takes on the recruiting trade and the objectives for the way forward for the podcast.
What is JobBoardGeek?
- JobBoardGeek is 100% concerning the enterprise of connecting candidates and employers. Nothing else. In different phrases, it’s about what you do.
- JobBoardGeek is helpful – I would like you to remove not less than a couple of nuggets of fine information from each episode.
- JobBoardGeek is amusing – discover I didn’t say ‘entertaining’! My co-host Steven Rothberg and myself refuse to take the trade (or ourselves) very critically. Life’s too brief.
- JobBoardGeek is compact. Each episode is round 20 minutes.
- JobBoardGeek is enlightening. We will discuss to people from all areas of our trade – job board homeowners, suppliers of instruments, analysts – you identify it. We purpose to open your thoughts to new income fashions, new instruments, and helpful methods and ideas.
So test it out. Our first episode offers you a bit background and the map ahead. Let us know what you assume!
This episode, in addition to all others, will be discovered on our Youtube channel here
And on the Job Board Doctor Blog here
Transcription
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0:00:03.2 Jeff Dickey-Chasins: Hello. This is Jeff Dickey-Chasins and I’m welcoming you to Job Board Geek. It’s the podcast concerning the enterprise of connecting candidates and employers. And at the moment, I’m right here with my co-host, Steven Rothberg of College Recruiter. Hey, Steven.
0:00:20.2 Steven Rothberg: Good morning, Jeff. Good to see you.
0:00:22.1 JD: Yeah, good to see you too. It’s that point of the yr the place issues are beginning to get colder and it’s onerous for these of us of a sure age to maneuver as rapidly as we used to, however it’s nice to be right here with you this morning, and I’ve bought a heater going, so every little thing is sweet.[laughter]
0:00:40.4 JD: Yeah, I do know, I might snort too. This is the inaugural recording of the Job Board Geek Podcast, and we thought that what we’d do that time is simply principally kind of offer you an intro about ourselves and who we’re and the place we come from, what our take is on the trade and what our objectives are for the podcast, so I’ll go forward and begin with myself. I’m also called the Job Board Doctor. I do consulting in for those who work in job boards and recruiting and sourcing and all kinds of stuff, and I additionally write a weblog, which you could have had an opportunity to learn sooner or later and have a e-newsletter as nicely. I’ve been within the trade since 1997. I began out with a bit firm known as Dice. I used to be their unique advertising and gross sales director, and throughout the time I labored with them, they went from making about $6 million a yr to $65 million by the point I left and gained’t say that I used to be accountable for all of that, however I had a hand in a bit little bit of it. It was a really thrilling time to be with a the job board. Worked with quite a few job boards through the years, after which in 2009 began my consulting enterprise.
0:01:55.5 JD: And since then, I’ve labored with about 650 job boards world wide, in actually each continent besides Antarctica and each nation that you may probably think about that will have a job board. So it’s numerous enjoyable, I’ll be fairly trustworthy. I feel job board individuals and those that run recruiting websites are simply actually fascinating individuals and so they get to do nice stuff as a result of they, as I stated earlier, join candidates and employers, and so they assist each side, so typically being the in-between is a superb place to be. I’ve some sturdy opinions about job boards and recruiting, as you’ll discover out over time, or for those who’ve learn my e-newsletter, you in all probability already know that, however that’s kind of my little background and we’ll get into some extra particulars, however I wanna flip it over to you, Steven, and perhaps you possibly can inform us a bit bit about the place you come from and what you’re doing.
0:02:55.8 SR: Sure, but when it’s okay, simply earlier than we do this, you stated that you simply’ve been within the trade since 1997, I feel it’d be a shock for lots of people to know that this trade even existed in 1997, however perhaps we are able to discuss that a bit bit in a while.
0:03:10.0 JD: Oh. [laughter] That’s an excellent level and really, it existed earlier than ’97, to be fairly trustworthy.
0:03:16.5 SR: Yeah.
0:03:17.3 JD: Dice, the corporate I labored for, began in 1990 as a bulletin board.
0:03:22.2 SR: Right.
0:03:23.9 JD: So this kind of stuff has been happening for a very long time.
0:03:25.3 SR: Yeah, and so they weren’t first. They have been early, however they weren’t first.
0:03:29.8 JD: That’s proper.
0:03:31.7 SR: So I’m Steven Rothberg, I’m the founder, and a reasonably new a part of my job title is Chief Visionary Officer for College Recruiter. The visionary a part of it comes from a course of that we use to handle our firm known as the Entrepreneurial Operating System, EOS, lots of people name it, and there’s this function within the group for a visionary, which is for individuals like me who are inclined to have extra concepts than they’ve capabilities of executing them, in order that’s form of what my function has developed into. I work with numerous our massive clients, distributors, companions, and numerous my job is to form of be making an attempt to look down the highway two years from now, 5 years from now, 10 years from now, and assist to place our enterprise to raised serve our clients. College Recruiter believes that each pupil and up to date graduate deserves an important profession. We’re one of many job boards that Jeff has helped through the years. We’re a long-time consumer, and our clients fall into two completely different buckets, and it’s one of many the reason why Jeff and I believed that it will be good for us to collaborate on this.
0:04:46.8 SR: We have a hybrid enterprise mannequin. Some of our clients are small employers, they put up a job right here, a job there. Some of them are actually massive employers and actually are posting hundreds and even tens of hundreds at any given time, and a few of them are relatively different job boards, and so we kinda see the enterprise from completely different views, we at College Recruiter. In phrases of me personally, dwell in Minnesota, so a bit bit north of the place Jeff is at, though he assures me that the climate the place he’s at in Iowa is kind of comparable, I’m undecided if it’s fairly as chilly there in temperature.
0:05:24.4 JD: It’s truly worse, Steven. It’s worse.
0:05:25.4 SR: Well, I feel that’s simply since you’re a wimp, however nicely I feel we are able to agree on that.
0:05:30.0 JD: Yes.
0:05:31.0 SR: And I grew up in Winnipeg, Canada, and prefer to joke that I’m the one individual in Minnesota to ever have moved right here for the climate.
0:05:46.7 JD: Yeah, that’s an excellent level, and I ought to say, Steven brings up an excellent level, I used to be born in Texas, which has perpetually formed my lack of ability to deal with chilly climate, however I’ve form of lived all around the nation. I lived in Seattle for some time, in New York for some time, in Kansas for some time, in Pennsylvania for some time, so I’ve had a style of numerous various kinds of environments, however I gotta say that it’s really spectacular to be in Iowa in February, the place the wind originates on the North Pole rolls throughout Canada and it will get colder and colder and dumps every little thing on Iowa. It’s an expertise.
0:06:27.1 SR: Well, these of us in Minnesota, we’re used to dumping our trash in Iowa.[laughter]
0:06:34.5 JD: Okay. Well, and simply so individuals don’t get the unsuitable concept, we’re truly not going to speak concerning the relative deserves of various geographical areas each week, however one of many issues that Steven introduced up is… One of the objectives that I had with the podcast is connecting candidates and employers. And for those who discover, I give attention to that greater than I give attention to the moniker of Job Board, as a result of I feel Job Board, it’s just like the phrase band-aid, it’s simply grow to be the shorthand for a lot of various kinds of platforms and providers which are primarily doing the identical factor, however they’re doing it in numerous actually alternative ways and so they obtain completely different outcomes. But it’s an excellent shorthand for principally saying, “Hey, that’s the service on the market that’s placing the employers and the candidates collectively.” And so we’re gonna use that shorthand, however I hope you notice that a few of the friends that we’ve on, once we say, “So inform us how your web site works?” They’re gonna say, “Well, initially, we’re not a job board.” I hear that on a regular basis, and that’s effective. But after I do surveys of candidates, the shorthand that sticks in individuals’s head is Job Board. They perceive what that’s. So you gotta float on some of these things.
0:07:52.5 SR: So would you say that LinkedIn is a job board?
0:07:55.4 JD: Absolutely.
0:07:57.4 SR: Yeah, it walks like a duck and talks like a duck and subsequently is a duck.
0:08:01.6 JD: Hey, for those who undergo any human assets convention and also you begin speaking to individuals and also you say, “So what’s LinkedIn?” Most of them are gonna say, “Oh, it’s a job board. That’s what I take advantage of it for. I take advantage of it for recruiting.” And it has numerous different options, identical to numerous these so-called job boards that we’re gonna be speaking about, have numerous different options for numerous causes, however the core of the worth prop, or actually the best way that these websites generate profits is by doing that connection that we have been speaking about. So we’re gonna discover that, we’re gonna be bringing on a wide range of those that run various kinds of providers and are available from actually completely different locations. Hopefully, they’ll be speaking about how they bought there and why they use the actual mannequin that they’ve, and what sort of challenges they’ve run into through the years. And we’re gonna get into stuff like what Steven is closely concerned with, which is a few new facets of the market like programmatic, ppc, pay per utility, pay per rent. That’s an space that you recognize tons about, Steven. You guys are deeply concerned in that, proper?
0:09:11.2 SR: Yeah, completely. And for our area of interest, geographically, and in addition to simply the truth that the overwhelming majority of the roles on our web site are just about entry stage, it makes numerous sense for us. And one of many issues that I’ve actually appreciated from a few of our discussions, Jeff, is that you simply’ve been actually nice about speaking about the way it makes numerous sense for us, and it makes completely no sense for others. Like you have been saying earlier, this isn’t an trade the place each job board runs the identical approach, has the identical attributes, has the identical product, providers, pricing fashions, no matter, it’s a extremely fragmented market and it is rather dynamic. When you have been speaking earlier about, can we name it a job board even? Another phrase that I take advantage of to explain what we do is a market. And there are some individuals who will say, “Well, a market just isn’t the identical as a job board.” One of the members of our Board of Advisors, George LaRocque, again and again and again and again, he simply says that they’re synonymous, and what he’s speaking about, they carry candidates and employers collectively and electronically on-line. Is {that a} social media, quote unquote web site like LinkedIn has all the time marketed itself as being? Is it a job board? Is it a market? And my reply there may be, positive.
0:10:40.0 JD: All of the above. All of the above. And one other factor that I’m planning on doing on the podcast, as a result of that is simply one thing I do in my consulting enterprise, is I wanna usher in those that work outdoors of North America as a result of it’s a worldwide enterprise. It’s thriving in all elements of the globe, and there are positively some completely different approaches as you go into various kinds of markets. And a few of them you don’t see right here within the US the place we’re based mostly, and a few of them appear to be common. So I feel as a lot as we are able to, given the time zone variations and whatnot, we’re gonna attempt to convey a few of these individuals in and I’ve quite a few corporations I’ve labored with within the EU and the UK which have some actually cool methods of doing this and have been fairly efficient.
0:11:33.0 JD: And the opposite piece of the podcast that I feel may very well be enjoyable is kind of what I used to be hinting at earlier with Steven. Everyone has an opinion on this trade, and a few individuals have even a couple of opinion, and I’m hoping that we are able to get some opinions flushed out on a few of these subjects as a result of they’re clearly gonna say, “Oh, it’s all about programmatic,” for those who discuss to somebody that’s into one other space, it’s all the time gonna be them. And I discover that fascinating ’trigger they make their case for why their method is the prime method, the important thing method, after which after all, they’ll have to speak to me, who’s all the time gonna say, “Yeah, however,” and, “What concerning the alternate options?”
0:12:20.3 SR: Yeah. And I completely agree. And I’m actually trying ahead to be being challenged, to having a few of my beliefs challenged, to be confirmed unsuitable, and to studying from others. There will certainly be occasions the place any person will put forth an argument, “This is why we do that.” And I feel that you simply and I’ll in all probability agree, that makes a ton of sense of their enterprise, of their market, for his or her clients, for the candidates that use their web site, no matter. They might have some actually, actually glorious causes for that, however on the identical time conclude that they’re perhaps not distinctive, however they’re uncommon. And so what they’re advocating or what they really feel very strongly about is making a ton of sense and what’s actually, actually been important to their success would possibly make completely no sense for the overwhelming majority of individuals. And that’s cool, proper? Then it’s such as you’ve considered it, you’ve examined it, you kinda perceive the professionals and cons, and it affirms your earlier perception that, “No, this isn’t an excellent match for your small business.”
0:13:30.9 SR: If your small business helps healthcare techniques rent nurse anesthetists in small cities throughout North America, Programmatic might be not gonna be an excellent device for you, however then again, for those who’re hiring, serving to employers rent thousands and thousands of bundle handlers a yr and also you’re not doing Programmatic, I feel you’re about to be taught a hell of so much, or resume looking. Products which are particularly designed for staffing corporations are gonna be a approach greater deal within the UK than they’re right here, however we are able to, however individuals within the US can be taught from that.
0:14:06.4 JD: Yeah, and I feel Steven brings up one other actually good level about this exploration of the trade, is that aside from it being international, it’s additionally at a really broad stage there are what we name generalists websites like Indeed that cowl all sorts of jobs, after which there are area of interest websites that target particular markets, or they are often very broad and but slim, like E Financial Careers, which is all about monetary careers all around the US, the UK, EU. And it’s true that the massive boards make many of the cash, however it’s additionally true that this can be a $20, $25 billion a yr trade globally, and numerous that cash is being produced by these area of interest websites. I all the time after I’m speaking to analysts and so they say, “Who are your shoppers?” and I say, “Quite a lot of my shoppers generate between $3 and $25 million a yr,” and so they’re like, “Really?” Yup, that’s actually what these the websites are all about, and there’s hundreds of these websites on the market.
0:15:04.9 JD: So we’re gonna attempt to get you uncovered to a few of these ’trigger I do know personally as a guide that one of many risks of the trade is that we’re very silent siloed. All these individuals, all these corporations which are on the market working round, have only a few choices to community, to speak to one another, to get a way of what’s actually happening on the bottom. And I feel that’s an actual purpose for Steven and I to show how all these completely different websites are doing it and the way they got here to be, and hopefully you’ll choose up some concepts, one thing you hadn’t considered earlier than. Maybe you’ll discover somebody that you simply wanna community with, and if nothing else, you possibly can snort on the approach I discuss or snort at certainly one of Steven’s very, very dangerous jokes. Although, I don’t know. I’ll must ask him to not do any of these jokes on-line. [laughter]
0:15:58.8 SR: One of my very, very dangerous jokes, isn’t that each redundant and repetitive? [laughter]
0:16:03.8 JD: And there you go, people. Now you recognize what you’re stepping into. [laughter] Well, Steven, earlier than we do the log off right here, I simply wanna ask you ways individuals can get in contact with you, if after listening to this intro session, they do need to do this?
0:16:19.8 SR: Sure, no sweat. I’m on LinkedIn, linkedin.com/in/stevenrothberg. Steven S-T-E-V-E-N. Twitter @StevenRothberg or be happy to e-mail me instantly, [email protected].
0:16:39.1 JD: And that’s it for this episode of Job Board Geek. We’re the podcast that’s all concerning the enterprise of connecting candidates and employers. I’m Jeff Dickey-Chasins, your host, and I’ve been right here with Steven Rothberg. We had a good time as common. I’ll be again subsequent week with one other podcast. In the meantime, have an important weekend. Bye.
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